Open Source PHP IDE Help Needed!!

[daehlith]

@crebilis:

It definately has to be plugin-based, I agree on that one, and I did already try to outline a plugin architecture using C++/Qt.

However, I'd keep it as a plugin-system, not as a framework, i.e. more in the style of Visual Studio, less Eclipse-like.

Personally I hope we can get some basic stuff sorted within the next 6 weeks, like agreeing on which license and programming language should be used - and then get it registered on sourceforge or a similar service.

[fsc7]

Hello,

Im using PHP Eclipse right now and it doesnt fullfill my needs. Its an excellent idea and I want to help.
I have used bluefish and quanta plus before and I think that you could start from this editors to something specific to php. First because Quanta already have highlihts for PHP code and project management, cvs, etc. Its open source so... We just have to improve it.
Ive learned java, c, pascal and many other languages but it has been more than 2 years ago. I just use php since then. But Im dispose to help.
Im from Amazonas, Brazil.

[crebilis]

Seems like there are a lot of people that want to help. Has someone already made actual plans, a design, a working schedule or anything at all?
I hope this idea won't end as just an idea, but as a great editor/IDE. So please, don't let the idea die...

[daehlith]

Personally I will be very busy until beginning of march (exams, moving to a new flat) but after that I was hoping to draw some uml graphs and write some base stuff for the editor, like the plugin-architecture.

[red6]

Hi Guys,

it seems more and more peolple like the idea of the ideal editor. still we need to as the question do we create the ide from nothing or do we build onto existing code. from my point of view it seems better to start over from scratch and learn from all prevoius attempts.

Ok i agree this will be more work and take more time than just use whats allready there. I think we will get a better ide this way.

and of course what platform should it run on? linux/windows both. i thinks this should be taken into account.

maybe c++ sounds the right way to go but i know from experience that c++ is fast but takes much more time to establish something then for example using c#.

with the idea of having an ide that should run on linux as on windows i propose to use the mono framework(using c#). to do this kind of stuff. you will be supprised how fast some parts can be coded in a short period of time.

but this is my idea. i just wanted to get the discussion started. hope to hear some good arguments what language is best to do the editor in.

[Wintran]

I think a Mozilla Firefox/Thunderbird type of system based on plugins (extensions) would be awesome.

This means you'll make the basic components as basic as possible (maybe just a text-editor with tabs and syntax coloring), and the users can themselves add additional features by installing plugins, such as FTP-support, built-in manuals, debugger etc.

This way the application can work in so many different contexts, becuase it's so very flexible, and can be just as light or as feature-heavy as you like.

[daividm]

I can certainly help.

There are lots of functionality php coders would want

[stuart]

Great - some good ideas here.

Summary of ideas:

1. Should run on Windows and Linux.
2. Not built using Java.
3. Possible c/c++ combined with other technologies so it can work on various OS.
4. Build very lightweight Editor focused on Speed and the ability to apply plugins.
5. Plugins should only be loaded into memory and ready for use when selected.
6. Open an account on sourceforge (or other free repository with CVS).
7. Have the plugin system developed so others can develop plugins.


Summary of what to do next.

1. Either drop me a pm or reply in here - let me know what type of help you can offer (programming, system design.. etc, etc).
2. I'll create a private forum for us to discuss how to proceed.
3. Come up with a good name - ideally before the sf project is opened.


Cheers,
Stuart

[guntaka]

Hi all,

I am using many php editors since two and half years. Many IDEs have only some best features but not all. I like Eclipse more than others because it is extendible. But for extending this, one must know Java. I like a PHP editor that can be easily extended without any programming knowledge. And can have feature to compose oneself.
And a Light weight editor, needs no installtion which can be carrries with an USB stick.

I have developed a PHP editor in c++ one year before, This is very limited feature editor with syntax highlighting and code insight. Thanks to Regex which makes my life easier when developing. But I had no time extending this further. But I think now I can work with you and can take some responsibility in developing core, or planning the editor.

I am good at Regex, OOPs, UML and software design.

1. Should run on Windows and Linux.
2. Not built using Java.
3. Possible c/c++ combined with other technologies so it can work on various OS.
4. Build very lightweight Editor focused on Speed and the ability to apply plugins.
5. Plugins should only be loaded into memory and ready for use when selected.
6. Open an account on sourceforge (or other free repository with CVS).
7. Have the plugin system developed so others can develop plugins.

I agree it should not depend on any OS or technology. I think better to develop only with C++.

[billyjack]

Originally posted by red6@Jan 30 2006, 07:42 PM
Hi Guys,

it seems more and more peolple like the idea of the ideal editor. still we need to as the question do we create the ide from nothing or do we build onto existing code. from my point of view it seems better to start over from scratch and learn from all prevoius attempts.

Ok i agree this will be more work and take more time than just use whats allready there. I think we will get a better ide this way.

and of course what platform should it run on? linux/windows both. i thinks this should be taken into account.

maybe c++ sounds the right way to go but i know from experience that c++ is fast but takes much more time to establish something then for example using c#.

with the idea of having an ide that should run on linux as on windows i propose to use the mono framework(using c#). to do this kind of stuff. you will be supprised how fast some parts can be coded in a short period of time.

but this is my idea. i just wanted to get the discussion started. hope to hear some good arguments what language is best to do the editor in.

Hi, I am a Web Application Engineer for content management system.
(all windows). I try to do all my work out side of work in php and mysql.

I like many of the others hear have tried many editors and ide's. They are all difficult to set up and poor documentation included. So I can offer testing on windows platform, and I can write good how to documentation.

My expertise is more in window server environment so maybe i can help on that platform. I am not a hard core programmer but love to learn more.

I would suggest something that is easy to install. Good how-to documentation. Easy configuration. All the other ideas I see here in this forum are important too. As for an editor AWS was good and lite(loaded fast) I don't know if its even around any more or maybe Context took this over.

Anyway I am in at anything I might be able to lend a hand in.